From Survival Mode to Self-Trust: Nervous System Regulation, Reiki & Sound Healing with Kathryn Eipl
You can be emotionally aware, spiritually devoted, and doing all the “right” things—and still feel stuck in the same patterns. In this episode, Jill Hart (The Coach’s Alchemist) sits down with Kathryn Eipl, Emotional Strategist, Reiki Master, Sound Therapist, and Yoga & Meditation Guide, to talk about what’s really happening when your nervous system is still in survival mode.
Kathryn shares how unresolved emotional energy can live in the body (even when you logically understand your patterns), why stress can affect digestion and nourishment, and simple ways to start shifting from fight-or-flight into rest and regulation. We also explore practical tools like movement and “shaking,” posture and power poses, and even smiling and laughter as a pathway back to calm, confidence, and choice.
In this episode, you’ll hear:
- Why feeling “stuck” isn’t always a mindset issue
- How emotional energy gets stored in the body (hello, shoulder tension)
- Nervous system regulation basics: cues, awareness, and over-correcting posture
- Stress, cortisol, digestion, and why your body may not be absorbing nutrients
- The surprising power of movement, shaking, smiling, and laughter
- Kathryn’s NeuroResonance Method and how she blends cognitive + energetic healing
- How to claim a free NeuroResonance session through Kathryn’s email list
- Local options in Southern California: restorative yoga + sound therapy groups
Connect with Kathryn Eipl:
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You can be emotionally aware, spiritually devoted, and doing all the right things, and still feel stuck in the same patterns. Could it be the problem isn't your mindset? About how your nervous system learned to survive?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Hi, and welcome to the You World Order Showcase Podcast, where we feature life, health, transformational coaches, and spiritual entrepreneurs stepping up to be the change they seek in the world.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I'm your host, Jill Hart, The Coaches Alchemist, on a mission to empower coaches and entrepreneurs to amplify their voice, monetize their mission, and get visible. If you're ready to start attracting premium clients without chasing algorithms or hunting people down like a banshee on a mission, head on over to Coachesalchemist.com and schedule your free client acquisition audit. It's the first step to building a business where your clients seek you out rather than
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: having to hunt them down. Today, we are chatting with a Catherine Eipel. Katherine is an emotional strategist, Reiki master, sound therapist, and yoga and meditation guide, and the founder of EIPL Healing. Every individual person is love.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: She blends psychology, yogic practices, Reiki, and sound healing to help people regulate their nervous system, release stored emotional energy, and create lasting change.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: She's the creator of The NeuroResonance Method, a trauma-informed approach supporting those navigating addiction, heartbreak, and self-sabotage to build a healthier, more loving relationship with themselves without forcing mindset shifts or using cookie-cutter solutions. Welcome to the show, Catherine. Great to have you with us today.
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::Kathryn Eipl: Thank you, it's lovely to be here!
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So, let's ask you the big question, are y'all ready?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: What's the most significant thing, in your opinion, as individuals we can do to make an impact on how the world is going?
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::Kathryn Eipl: That is for me to stand up and…
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::Kathryn Eipl: take action in what it is that you want. If you want to see something change, you need to bring awareness to it. You also need to take action towards that change. So I think the biggest thing that we can all
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::Kathryn Eipl: Do is actually take that initiative, rather than being silent and sitting still.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I love that, personal responsibility.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's a beautiful thing.
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::Kathryn Eipl: It really is.
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::Kathryn Eipl: Right? So much can change if we all… Take on that personal responsibility.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, and it's…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's one thing to say, okay, I'm all committed to changing my life and solving all my problems and…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: But it's sometimes kind of another thing when you're doing all the things, you think you're doing all the things, because a lot of us have been through various programs and coaching and therapists, and we realize that we have something that we need to resolve, but we don't really know where to go next.
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::Kathryn Eipl: Right, and so then you get into a pattern of where you just feel stuck, and you're like, whoa…
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::Kathryn Eipl: I just made so much progress, and now, like.
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::Kathryn Eipl: I'm not done, but what… what do I do next? So it's like, you're kind of sitting on your hands, waiting, or hoping that someone's gonna come and be like, you do this! Here you go. And you're like, great! Okay.
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::Kathryn Eipl: And so that's what you help people with, right? That is what I help people with.
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::Kathryn Eipl: That is why Ipel healing is… created, and…
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::Kathryn Eipl: A lot of times, you know, I think many people can relate to the fact that we just weren't taught how to…
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::Kathryn Eipl: really work with our emotions and also regulate our nervous system. Because we kind of lived in the age of
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::Kathryn Eipl: being a kid, if you were crying, a lot of times you were told to just kind of get over it, or to work through it on your own, but you're like, I don't know what that means, I'm just a kid, so I guess I'll just try to not cry.
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::Kathryn Eipl: So I help people learn to identify the emotion that they're feeling, because…
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::Kathryn Eipl: There's a whole range of emotions, and really…
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::Kathryn Eipl: there's about 8 common ones that I think most people identify with, or at least know, but then, like, anger can break down into 4 different types of emotions, right? So it's really understanding the differences between those.
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::Kathryn Eipl: And…
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::Kathryn Eipl: then giving yourself the space to really listen to how those emotions are resonating throughout your body. Is there a place that feels tense or tight? Is… are you feeling hot? Maybe even sweaty?
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::Kathryn Eipl: And from there, it's learning how to activate your parasympathetic nervous system. So, bringing yourself out of the survival mode and into the rest and relaxation.
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::Kathryn Eipl: Phase.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I think a lot of people don't really realize that when you have an emotion, it generates a chemical response in your body.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So, your body is actually physically doing something, and if you don't get control of it.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: other things happen, and if you don't learn how to adjust it… like, animals, for instance, when they get,
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Agitated, or if they're… They're done… if they… we're in a fight-or-flight situation, they'll often shake.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And the shaking is to release that energy, because all of that stuff is built up in their bodies, and they just do it automatically. But people, you know, they don't shake, usually.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: People that are involved in big traumas, they will shake.
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::Kathryn Eipl: Yes.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It is something they do, but for the… for the… For the average person.
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::Kathryn Eipl: Yeah, and that's something that…
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::Kathryn Eipl: was never taught to us, and there… like, I will shake my body, like, on purpose, because when I feel my energy build up, I'm either getting…
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::Kathryn Eipl: really anxious, and I can feel, like, the temperature shift, my body's making that response.
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::Kathryn Eipl: So I'll either, like, shake, and just kind of, like, make it look like I'm… I'm dancing, or just, like, kind of bounce up and down for a little bit.
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::Kathryn Eipl: And go on a walk, because…
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::Kathryn Eipl: My energy needs to move, right?
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::Kathryn Eipl: it's better to get it released and broken up, rather than to keep it inside and try to go throughout my whole day, because if I'm…
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::Kathryn Eipl: responding to a day out of an anxious phase, that's gonna do…
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::Kathryn Eipl: more harm than good. It's not gonna convey the confidence that I want, the strength that I want to come across as. I'm also probably gonna make some poor decisions out of seeking validation, rather than knowing, like, no, this is what I want to do, and I don't…
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::Kathryn Eipl: care what other people say about it, because this is my choice.
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::Kathryn Eipl: Whereas if I'm reacting from an anxious spot, it'll be like, well, I don't actually want to do this, but I know that if I… if I do this, then I will get the praise of, like, these 5 people. So, like, that would be really… that would feel really good to me, because
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::Kathryn Eipl: I am just feeling so much anxiety right now.
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::Kathryn Eipl: So, it wouldn't lead to the outcome I want.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Right. And I think people experience that often.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: They don't… They don't know how to regulate
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Their nervous system, and so they're just kind of stuck in this Fight or flight mode.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And it… if you're in it a long time, it starts to affect your organs, because it gets… that energy gets stored in various parts of your body, and it's, like.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I think it's how we get disease a lot of times.
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::Kathryn Eipl: Yeah, I agree with that, and there is that saying, dis-ease is from dis… space ease.
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::Kathryn Eipl: In the energetic body.
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::Kathryn Eipl: And if you're constantly living in a phase where you
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::Kathryn Eipl: feel like you're in survival mode all the time. You're… you're not regulated, and you might have a lot of illnesses or health issues pop up.
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::Kathryn Eipl: Because you could be under… undernourished, not getting enough rest.
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::Kathryn Eipl: And that leads to a whole other set of issues within the body.
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::Kathryn Eipl: And… Go… sorry, go ahead.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: No, I was just gonna add that you mentioned undernourished.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Even though people are eating, they're not necessarily nourishing themselves.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And especially when we're in stress, we call it stress eating, and stress eating usually involves things that aren't necessarily helpful to your body, which just compounds the problem.
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::Kathryn Eipl: Exactly. And sometimes, in that phase, like, if you know that you have somewhere to be, but you know that you need to eat food, you'll eat it so fast that your body's not actually getting a chance to properly digest it, it's not able to pull
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::Kathryn Eipl: the nutrients from the food that it can, it's just literally being pushed through your body, so it's actually not helping you, even if you were eating something nutritious, like a salad or something.
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::Kathryn Eipl: Because if you're just eating it so fast, the body can't absorb its nutrition.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I wonder how cortisol plays into that, because I know people, you can eat
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: The same amount of food, but if you're under a lot of stress.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Same type, same amount, but if you're under stress, you start gaining weight.
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::Kathryn Eipl: Yeah.
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::Kathryn Eipl: I feel like the cortisol can block your metabolism.
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::Kathryn Eipl: And it slows the metabolism process down, so it's just like, if you just keep eating, and again, like you were saying, when we're stressed, you're eating more of what is comfort food.
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::Kathryn Eipl: thinking that that will make you feel better, and maybe it is a little Band-Aid in the moment, because it tastes so good and reminds you of things.
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::Kathryn Eipl: But typically, comfort food is often not the most nutritious, so then it's things that are harder for your body to break up, like carbs and starch. So…
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::Kathryn Eipl: You're… that takes more time to digest, and if you're really stressed.
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::Kathryn Eipl: Then your metabolism's also just moving slower.
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::Kathryn Eipl: So, it's really important to listen to…
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::Kathryn Eipl: Your body and start to recognize just even the subtle cues of when you can feel your body having some sort of reaction.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So how does unresolved emotional energy live in the nervous system, even when you logically understand your patterns?
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::Kathryn Eipl: If things haven't been fully processed, you haven't actually worked through the issue and talked about it, had your emotional response to it, whether it was crying or some sort of
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::Kathryn Eipl: Anger, or even grief.
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::Kathryn Eipl: And then it's being… Stored in the physical body, and it will just live there until…
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::Kathryn Eipl: You're ready to process it, and you might not even know that it's there, because your body just becomes use to having this extra thing in, like.
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::Kathryn Eipl: For instance, so many people have shoulder tension, because we have a lot of responsibilities, and we tend to take on more responsibilities, and so we feel the weight of the world, quite literally, on our shoulders.
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::Kathryn Eipl: And so, we're pulling our shoulders in, we're tensing our upper back, we're tensing the back of our neck as we tense our back as well.
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::Kathryn Eipl: And if you do that chronically, most of the day, all day, every day.
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::Kathryn Eipl: Then your muscles are just getting used to being essentially giant knots.
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::Kathryn Eipl: And after a while, you don't feel how tight your own back is, because it's become normal. So you're like, this is just my back, this is how it feels. Until you go and get a massage.
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::Kathryn Eipl: And it gets loosened up, and then you're like, whoa, I didn't realize how stressed I was, how much tension I was holding onto.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I think it can also pull your bones out of…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Out of place, and then you start having
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Back pain, and it's… it's because your… your muscles are so tight, they're pulling the… the discs.
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::Kathryn Eipl: Out of place. For your spine, out of place, and then it's pushing against a nerve, and then it's like…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Oh, okay, you got my attention, finally!
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::Kathryn Eipl: Yeah, and then people… your back freezes up, and…
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::Kathryn Eipl: And some people are told that they need to have surgery for herniated discs for that reason, and…
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::Kathryn Eipl: A lot of that can be avoided if you really learn the warning signs of your body, and it can be hard to do that at first, because our society
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::Kathryn Eipl: you know, I think it's changing now, but it definitely lived by ignoring a lot of the warning signs from your body. Now more and more people are understanding that there is this huge connection between our mind, our body, and our energetic body.
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::Kathryn Eipl: So… When you really think about it.
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::Kathryn Eipl: emotions are energy, and they do elicit some sort of chemical response within your body. Like, when you feel happy, it's like you almost just feel lighter, your muscles are softening up, you might even, like, widen your shoulders, open the physical heart space.
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::Kathryn Eipl: And if you're… anxious or scared, you're gonna, like, curl forward, your back might tense.
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::Kathryn Eipl: You can also get really hot.
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::Kathryn Eipl: So it's important to know when those things
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::Kathryn Eipl: are happening, and then to take a moment, and when you're first learning, I like to use the method of over-correcting, because it's like, okay, now you've noticed that you're doing this.
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::Kathryn Eipl: So take… when you're curled forward, take a real big, like, stretch, pull the shoulders back, just roll them down, sit up nice and straight, and…
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::Kathryn Eipl: then ask yourself, okay, how does this feel to hold this posture? Like, maybe you're most likely still gonna be a little anxious, because it doesn't go away just like that immediately. Unfortunately, it would be cool if it did.
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::Kathryn Eipl: But you'll start to notice that even by doing that.
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::Kathryn Eipl: There's been some alleviate… like, some stress has melted away.
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::Kathryn Eipl: Your body is starting to open up, you're breathing a little bit more clearly, so the nervous system is already starting to settle down.
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::Kathryn Eipl: And then you can take a few more deep breaths until you feel like your pulse has slowed down.
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::Kathryn Eipl: And you feel a little bit more calmer.
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::Kathryn Eipl: And then you can move through…
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::Kathryn Eipl: The task or the situation at hand.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: How do you think, like, power postures play into all of this? And smiling.
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::Kathryn Eipl: Power postures, I feel, can be very helpful.
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::Kathryn Eipl: I think when you're… it… everybody comes in at a different range, right? So when you're starting out, and you've never done a power pose, it's gonna feel really weird, so it's something that I would build up to with that, right? Because if you've never done a power pose.
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::Kathryn Eipl: I'd rather focus on just identifying where those physical symptoms are…
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::Kathryn Eipl: are happening in the body, and what they are, right? Because first, we just need to build up a language of how your body is communicating with you, because every body's a little bit different.
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::Kathryn Eipl: And… so then, if you are comfortable, like, with your posture, you've worked with power poses, I think it is a great way to start, because it also adds some humor for me. Because if I'm doing something where I'm like.
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::Kathryn Eipl: Do I want to do that? Do I want… and then I decide, I'm like, yes, I want to do that. I'll put my hands on my hips and just, like, make myself take up space. I'm like, how does it feel good, knowing that I've made this decision?
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::Kathryn Eipl: I feel happy, because it's a decision I want to make, and I'm gonna stick with it, right?
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::Kathryn Eipl: So it's a good tool to use to help you get more comfortable with
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::Kathryn Eipl: Opening up your understanding of how posture can really become an equal player in your emotions.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And… and smiling?
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::Kathryn Eipl: Thank you, I forgot about smiling. Smiling is a good… A good way to…
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::Kathryn Eipl: Kind of start to trick the body into thinking that you are…
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::Kathryn Eipl: happier than what you might seem, right? And something that can… that I'll do when… I first started…
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::Kathryn Eipl: doing all of this, is I would be like, well, I'm not happy, and I'm smiling, but I would have the conversations as I was smiling, and it would just be talking to myself, looking in a mirror. I'm like, well, I'm smiling, so I must be happy, but I don't feel happy.
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::Kathryn Eipl: I don't feel happy because this happened, and this happened, and this happened. Like, maybe if I smile brighter, it'll… it'll help. And so I would, like, give the cheesiest smile I could, and immediately start laughing.
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::Kathryn Eipl: And then, the laughter creates its own chemical response and does trigger some dopamine, so it actually does help you feel a little bit better.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I used to do that with my daughter, my youngest daughter. She would get all mopey. I've had 5 kids, so this was the last one, and she was an experiment.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I love her dearly. She's, like, the coolest gal ever. But, she would get mopey, And…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And she would want to be, like, whiny.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Smile, Sarah!
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: She would laugh!
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And then the whininess went away.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So, it's like…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It was… it was so easy. And parents, they get caught up in the, you know, please stop whining, because parents don't want justice, they want quiet.
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::Kathryn Eipl: Yeah.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Shit.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And then we'd both be laughing together, and…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It was a bonding experience instead of a correcting experience, and it really helped our relationship.
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::Kathryn Eipl: That's beautiful. Well, and that's… that's what I feel like is missing from…
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::Kathryn Eipl: children's education about emotions, because a lot of times, like you said, parents want quiet. So, we're taught that if we're crying or having
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::Kathryn Eipl: a unwanted emotional outburst of any way, that we need to figure out a way to be quiet about it. So that's signaling subconsciously that our emotions shouldn't be heard. Nobody wants to hear our emotions.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Then they don't matter.
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::Kathryn Eipl: So I love that you took that time with your daughter to be like, okay, well, try smiling, right? Because it does create
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::Kathryn Eipl: that shift.
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::Kathryn Eipl: Maybe it won't be as immediate, but it is a helpful tool to have.
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::Kathryn Eipl: And if you can't smile and laugh at your own healing journey, because I'm a huge believer that laughter is also medicine, so I laugh at myself all the time. One, partly because I do think I'm hilarious, and two, because, like, healing
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::Kathryn Eipl: It can… it is not all sunshine, rainbows, happiness, puppies, and unicorns. It can be dark, you're confronting your… your traumas, your shadows.
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::Kathryn Eipl: So let's add some humor to it, make it a little bit more fun, because it doesn't need to be 100% serious all the time.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I love that, I love that. So, how do you help people? Is it in groups? Is it one-on-one?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Communities?
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::Kathryn Eipl: I am doing a lot of one-on-one sessions right now. I also work at an addiction recovery center in Carlsbad, so I'll lead groups like yoga and sound therapy.
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::Kathryn Eipl: for them.
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::Kathryn Eipl: And…
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::Kathryn Eipl: Individually, I offer Reiki, which is a form of energy work, sound therapy, and then my emotional strategy work, which is
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::Kathryn Eipl: The neuroresonance method, and that's a combination of cognitive behavioral therapeutic techniques, getting you to understand what your current thought process is, identifying where those behaviors come from.
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::Kathryn Eipl: And then working to build in different thoughts, different behaviors.
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::Kathryn Eipl: Reiki and sound therapy are included with the neuroresonance method, so that way we're getting it on the energetic level in the physical body, not only just the cognitive level, because
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::Kathryn Eipl: Everything is connected, so when we're targeting all 3 of those, we can…
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::Kathryn Eipl: Accelerate the healing process a little bit faster than if we were just doing one of those modalities.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I love that, and people can, experience this with you for free?
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::Kathryn Eipl: Yes, so if you go to my website and sign up for my emailing list, you will be given directions on how to claim a free neuroresonance session for yourself.
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::Kathryn Eipl: And that is the initial session of talking about where you are now, and kind of what's going on, and where you want to be, what your goals are.
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::Kathryn Eipl: And then we'll create a little roadmap on how to get from point A to point B.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I love that. And so, when you do your sessions that are one-on-one rather than your community live things in Carlsbad, though
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: People could come to Carlsbad and join you?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Is that…
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::Kathryn Eipl: That is possible, so I have an open group on Tuesdays in La Jolla at 12.30. It's a restorative yoga and sound therapy class, and then I also have an open
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::Kathryn Eipl: An open community group.
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::Kathryn Eipl: It's the first and third Saturdays of the month at 9.30 in the morning in Encinitas.
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::Kathryn Eipl: Again, yoga and sound therapy.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: tight.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: If you're in Southern California, you might want to drop in to one of her sessions, and they can find out about that on your website as well, or is that…
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::Kathryn Eipl: They can… you can reach out to me, and I can send further information on how to… how to get signed up for one of those classes.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: That sounds like a lot of fun, actually.
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::Kathryn Eipl: I… I love it. I'm blessed at the fact of, like, yes, that is my work, and it doesn't feel like work. I get to lead people on stretches where we're seated or laying on the ground, and then do some sound healing, play lovely instruments for them, so…
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::Kathryn Eipl: I love that that's… My… one of my lines of work, yes.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I love that it's play, too.
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::Kathryn Eipl: Yeah.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: That's just, like… I think… We… we need to embrace more of lifestyles like that.
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::Kathryn Eipl: And get away from…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: We have to just, like, go show up in this space that…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: makes us miserable. We allow ourselves to be made miserable.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Experiencing.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: That feel trapped that we have to.
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::Kathryn Eipl: Yeah, and.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: that's…
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::Kathryn Eipl: You want something that's going after that, like, childlike energy of just giving yourself some freedom.
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::Kathryn Eipl: Right, so…
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::Kathryn Eipl: I… I largely do live my life around that principle of, well, my heart's not in it, there's no joy for me here.
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::Kathryn Eipl: I'm not gonna do it.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: That's fantastic. It's… I think more… if more of us chose to live intentionally like that.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Everybody else would be happier around us.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Because we wouldn't be so miserable.
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::Kathryn Eipl: Yeah, and that, you know, comes back to the personal responsibility, like we were talking about at the beginning of the show, because it's…
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::Kathryn Eipl: I used to work in corporate entertainment, so I understand the office life, the cubicle life, the long hours of entertainment, the chronic changing of schedules.
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::Kathryn Eipl: And that lifestyle was miserable for me. Like, at first it was cool, and it quickly lost its luster.
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::Kathryn Eipl: And I realized that if I wanted my life to change, I… I had to change my life.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, and it's so exciting to change your life, and…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Something different, and you don't have to stay on that path forever.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: But the experience that you get to have for now is… It's incredible. It… Exactly.
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::Kathryn Eipl: Like, you might choose to do a complete 180 and do something you never saw yourself doing, because if you asked me 10 years ago if this was my goal, of having a health and wellness practice of my own.
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::Kathryn Eipl: was what I was aiming for, or would have happened to me, I would have laughed at you. Because that was not at all on my career plan, it wasn't the path that I was taking for myself.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And…
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::Kathryn Eipl: then I did have that moment where it was just like, okay, I'm gonna walk away from everything I worked for, and go do this other thing because it makes me happy.
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::Kathryn Eipl: And… I… I love it.
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::Kathryn Eipl: It's… it's still…
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::Kathryn Eipl: challenge and build my character, because it allows me to show up in different ways that I wouldn't have thought about before.
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::Kathryn Eipl: And I also have the freedom to be like, this is what I'm doing right now. So if I want to change, or to add something in, or adapt something.
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::Kathryn Eipl: or do a complete change again. I can't. I know I can't because I did it, so if I want to do it again, I do it again.
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::Kathryn Eipl: And that's comforting, you know?
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::Kathryn Eipl: To know that I don't have to be locked into a specific way of living.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, that's true freedom.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Really, intentional living.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Thank you so much for joining us, Catherine. This has been a lovely conversation.
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::Kathryn Eipl: Thank you so much for having me on your show, Jill. I've appreciated our conversation today.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: To learn more about Catherine, and to schedule your session with her, please visit Ipelhealing.com forward slash emotion… emotional dash health dash counseling, and we'll be sure to put that link in the show notes below. In order to contact her, you can just
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